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Anger as US conservatives rallied in Washington


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Sarah Palin: "You have the same spine and moral courage of Washington and Lincoln and Martin Luther King"

Tens of thousands of people have attended a controversial rally in Washington DC organised by conservative talk show host Glenn Beck.

Civil rights leaders criticised Mr Beck for holding the rally at the Lincoln Memorial, the place where Martin Luther King Jr made his "I Have a Dream" speech 47 years ago to the day.

Former US vice-presidential hopeful Sarah Palin also spoke at the rally.

Civil rights campaigners held a counter-rally nearby.
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'Restoring honour'

Addressing the conservative rally, Mr Beck - a presenter for Fox News - said the US had "wandered in darkness" for too long.

"America today begins to turn back to God," he said.

He told the crowd the timing of the "Restoring Honour" rally was coincidence but also divine providence.
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You have the same steel spine and the moral courage of Washington and Lincoln and Martin Luther King”

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Mrs Palin compared those at the rally with the civil rights activists who marched on Washington in 1963 to hear Dr King's speech.

The same spirit that helped civil rights activists overcome oppression and violence would help this group as well, she said.

"You have the same steel spine and the moral courage of Washington and Lincoln and Martin Luther King," Mrs Palin said. "It is in you. It will sustain you as it sustained them."

Our correspondent in Washington DC, Paul Adams, says those in attendance were there to reaffirm their patriotism and share their conviction that the country had lost its way.

The crowd was good-natured, our correspondent says, but the people there believed their freedoms were being taken away from them by an overweening government.

A counter-rally organised by the civil rights leader Rev Al Sharpton took place at the same time.

Participants marched to the site of a proposed memorial to Dr King, not far from the Lincoln Memorial.

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Civil rights leaders say Mr Beck's message runs counter to that of Dr King.

"It's an affront to what the civil rights movement stood for," Georgia Congressman John Lewis, who spoke at the 1963 March on Washington, told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

"We didn't do anything in anger and never tried to divide people. Glenn Beck is a very divisive force."

The 1963 march was a pivotal moment in the US civil rights movement. Dr King's "I Have a Dream" speech at the Lincoln Memorial that day foresaw a united nation, free from racial discrimination. It is one of the most celebrated works of American oratory.

Mr Beck is a prominent voice in the anti-establishment Tea Party movement. Last year he accused President Barack Obama of racism, saying he had a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture".

He said when he was planning the rally in the US capital he was unaware that Saturday 28 August would be the anniversary of the 1963 march.

"It's not the date, it's the message," he said on his television show on Thursday.

"I've heard it over and over again in the media that because of this event, on the date of this event, I'm somehow or another hijacking Dr Martin Luther King's speech. I'm not big enough to do that. No-one is."

The Tea Party movement has galvanised conservatives opposed to taxes and government intervention.
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So I bet Fox etal don't do one of those analyses that shows there were really only 5000 people there.


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The same spirit that helped civil rights activists overcome oppression and violence would help this group as well, she said.
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Here are some pics:
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Two Black guys even...

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Sharpton's 'Reclaim the Dream' event brings thousands to honor MLK


By Avis Thomas-Lester, Hamil R. Harris and Krissah thompson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, August 28, 2010; 5:50 PM

Sharpton's 'Reclaim the Dream' event brings thousands to honor MLK

Thousands of people joined the Rev. Al Sharpton and other leaders Saturday to commemorate the anniversary of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s March on Washington in 1963. The event, billed as "Reclaim the Dream," included a five-mile march that culminated at the Mall, where conservative talk show host Glenn Beck had organized the simultaneous "Restoring Honor" rally.

In an interview before the gathering began at Dunbar High School in Northwest Washington, Sharpton said he called the event to show respect for the ideals of King, who made his famous "I Have a Dream" speech 47 years ago near where Beck spoke to thousands Saturday.

"People are clear in what Dr. King's dream was about, and we will not react to those who try to distort that dream," Sharpton said. He was one of several prominent leaders who condemned Beck's rally, despite cries from organizers that "Restoring Honor" was not intended to dishonor King or his work.

Police kept an alert eye on the crowds for both events, concerned that skirmishes might result from the opposing camps. The events prompted crowds at end-of-the-line Metro stations because of heavy ridership by those heading in from the suburbs. Metro officials said several stations were busy because of riders unfamiliar with how to buy fare cards. To ease the crunch, officials recommended that people at the Franconia-Springfield station (at the end of the Blue line in Fairfax County) and at the Shady Grove station (at the end of the Red line in Montgomery County) use other stations.

At one point, a line was wrapped around the block near Dunbar High School because of a bottleneck to get through the door to the athletic field, which, along with the bleachers, was filled by rally participants. Speakers addressed everything from education to ending gun violence to gay rights to congressional voting privileges for the District.

Early at the event, a gospel choir took the stage after a fervent prayer by Barbara Williams-Skinner, president of the Skinner Leadership Institute.

"What do you do when you've given your all? Child, you just stand," the crowd quietly sang.

Williams-Skinner made strong ties between the 1963 rally at which King spoke of his "dream" and the rally at the Northwest Washington high school. "Like Dr. King, we believe that the bank of justice is not bankrupt," she said. "We thank you God for raising up President Barack Obama as a small down payment on that dream."

Bianca Farmer, a senior at Dunbar, drew applause when she told the crowd to continue to celebrate the achievement that Obama represents. "We must be fearful of stopping there," she said. "The fight is not in the same arena as it was 47 years ago, but the fight lives on."

Some leaders Saturday pointed to what they characterized as lost ground in the quest for the principles that King held dear. "When I look at my television, I don't see the King crowd of blacks and whites together," said Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.), who worked as an aide for King at the 1963 march.

NAACP President Ben Jealous said: "We are not sure what the message of the Beck rally is, since he told them to leave their signs at home. We have to revitalize jobs and schools and reclaim Dr. King's dream."

Education Secretary Arne Duncan told the rally participants that education is the civil rights issue of this generation. "Parents: Turn off the television. Educators: We have to stop making excuses," he said. "The dividing line in our country today is less around white and black and more about educational opportunity. We've been too satisfied with second-class schools."

A highlight of the Dunbar event was the presentation to a local student, Leah Carr of Northwest Washington, of a $100,000 scholarship to Bethune-Cookman University in Florida. Carr, who has a 3.5 grade-point average, said she had been unsure that she could attend college because her mother struggles to keep food on the table.

Carr came to volunteer at the rally and was stunned when Bethune-Cookman President Larry Handfield presented her with a four-year scholarship. "I can't believe it," Carr said. "I came here to serve the people."

The mood of the rally was not always as light.

"We will not stand silent as some seek to bamboozle Dr. King's dream," said Marc Morial, president of the National Urban League. "We reclaim the dream of Dr. King for the 21st century. We reclaim this dream because we are here to say we must be one nation. We stand on the shoulders of our fathers and mothers, grandfathers and grandmothers."

Jaime Contreras, president of SEIU-32BJ, said those gathered at the Mall with Beck "represent angry white people and hate-mongering." He added: "We will not let them stand in the way of the change we voted for!"

Cynthia Butler-McIntyre, national president of the Delta Sigma Theta sorority, said the racial divisions between the rallies show that America has not yet become the "post-racial society" some claim it to be. "We came today to say that is a lie and the truth is not in it," she said.

Handfield pointed to educational inequities as a sign that King's dream has not been fully realized. "Part of the dream has become a reality but other parts have not," he said. "In this country still today there are cities where far less than 30 percent of black males are graduating to high school, therefore the dream is not yet complete."

Radio host Warren Ballentine quoted King when he told participants that both rallies' participants have something in common. "Dr. King once said, 'We may have come here on different ships but right now we're in the same boat.' "

Avis Jones DeWeever, executive director of the National Council of Negro Women, drew thunderous roars when she challenged those gathered to stand up for their place. "Don't let anyone tell you that they have the right to take their country back," she said. "It's our country, too. We will reclaim the dream. It was ours from the beginning."

The events resulted in no major skirmishes by mid-afternoon. Heat-related illnesses, as well as bee stings, twisted ankles, asthma attacks and issues with diabetes were reported; several people were transported to the hospital. None of the illnesses were considered serious or life-threatening, said D.C. Fire and EMS spokesman Pete Piringer.

The five-mile march organized by Sharpton started in the early afternoon. It snaked to the endpoint at the southeast side of the Mall, where the King Memorial is being built. Martin Luther King III was scheduled to speak there.

After walking several miles, former D.C. delegate Walter Fauntroy collapsed on a small stage where the King Memorial is to be built. He was taken to a local hospital for evaluation.

To the marchers, Sharpton said: "Let the line stretch. They already are going to say there were only 2,000 or 3,000 of you here. If people start heckling, smile at them. This ain't about you -- it's about Dr. King."


Staff writers Carol Morello and Lena Sun contributed to this report.
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