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Old 01-09-10, 04:46 PM
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We lost sight of fairness in the false promise of wealth


Acceptance of inequality rests on assumptions that 'free markets' make us all richer in the end. Growth figures tell it differently



o Ha-Joon Chang
o guardian.co.uk, Monday 30 August 2010 20.00 BST

As Nick Clegg fends off accusations of selling out and Labour leadership candidates set out their stall, debates about inequality show no sign of going away. But the moral arguments are rarely extended far enough, and virtually no politician challenges a basic, erroneous premise that inequality is a price worth paying for a more efficient market system that enriches us all.

The simplistic, free-market view of the Thatcher-Major era said equality of opportunity is all we need for a fair society. If no one had their market participation blocked, the result, however unfair it may look to some, should be accepted as fair. Today many people, both on the left and the right, recognise that this is not enough. We can accept the outcome of a competitive process as fair only when the participants have equality in basic capabilities; the fact that no one is allowed to have a head start does not make the race fair if some contestants have only one leg.

Children who do not have some minimum level of nutrition, healthcare, and education cannot grow into fully capable adults. The Sure Start programme of the last Labour government and the coalition's pupil premium are based on recognition of this fact, although neither are of sufficient scale and depth to make a fundamental difference.

Unfortunately the debate more or less stops there. But, if we accept children should not be penalised for things beyond their control, shouldn't we accept the same for adults? Most people become unemployed through events such as a financial crisis. And yet, despite that, we insist on punishing the unemployed. A fairer solution would be to give them a second, third, or fourth chance through effective retraining and relocation programmes supported by an industrial policy geared towards generating high-productivity jobs. For some we already give second chances: the bankruptcy law offers business people protection from creditors and debt restructuring because we accept that businesses often fail due to factors outside their owner's control.

But even giving adult workers second chances does not take us far enough towards a fairer society. We have to question an assumption that has dominated economic thinking over the last three decades – namely, the belief that maximising market freedom is the best way to generate wealth.

From this assumption came the argument that even committed egalitarians should let markets rip, because that would give them the maximum wealth to redistribute. In Britain, the natural "progressive" conclusion was the New Labour strategy that you regulate the City as little as possible because that will maximise the wealth it generates, which means more money for equality-enhancing programmes like Sure Start.

Sadly that assumption has been proved wrong. After three decades of deregulation and tax cuts for the rich, growth has slowed down, rather than accelerated, in almost all countries. The world economy, which was growing at about 3% in per capita terms in the "bad old days" of widespread regulation and punitive taxation for the rich in the 1960s and 70s, has grown at about half that rate in the last three decades. In Britain, average annual per capita income growth rate was 2.4% in the 60s and the 70s, when the country was allegedly suffering from the "British disease"; but it fell to 1.7% during 1990 to 2009, after it is supposed to have been cured of the disease thanks to Margaret Thatcher's heroic struggle in the 1980s.

At the heart of this slowdown lies the free-market policy package. In developing countries it has led to breakneck liberalisation of trade, so destroying swaths of "infant" industries. In both developing and developed countries, policies to reduce inflation to very low levels have choked demand and made business loans expensive. And in Britain and the US, financial deregulation has played a crucial role in reducing growth.

Unleashing finance has enormously increased the power of mobile shareholders in pursuit of short-term profits and high dividends. The surest way to deliver these is to minimise long-term investments, such as machinery and research and development. Shareholders have encouraged such behaviour by paying astronomical salaries to managers good at making such cuts, even though they weaken the growth prospect of companies in the long run. Those shareholders don't necessarily care about the long-term future of their companies: they can always sell their shares.

If we cannot assume free-market policies to be the best at generating wealth, the British debate on equality needs a total rethink. We have to debate what our macroeconomic, industrial, financial, or even executive pay policies should be, as their exact shapes significantly affect the scale of wealth that markets create. It cannot be blithely assumed that markets know how to maximise wealth – while all we have to worry about is how to redistribute it through taxes and benefits.

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Originally Posted by contracycle View Post
Virtually no politician challenges a basic, erroneous premise that inequality is a price worth paying for a more efficient market system that enriches us all.
I don't think that's really the reasoning behind the anglo-saxon model of capitalism.


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We can accept the outcome of a competitive process as fair only when the participants have equality in basic capabilities; the fact that no one is allowed to have a head start does not make the race fair if some contestants have only one leg.
It hurts to quote Bateman but... how far do we push that 'logic'? Should the stupid kids being given more time during exams?

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Children who do not have some minimum level of nutrition, healthcare, and education cannot grow into fully capable adults.
This is the UK, not some third world dump. So, yeah, i am sure a lot more can be done to ensure that "equality of opportunity" is made into a reality. But I am not willing to recognise that true "equality of opportunity" would not lead to a "fair" result...

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A fairer solution would be to give them a second, third, or fourth chance through effective retraining and relocation programmes supported by an industrial policy geared towards generating high-productivity jobs.
I suspect that's already the intent. Whether it's effectively delivered or even possible (who said anyone was smart enough to be in a high productivity job?) is another issue.

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For some we already give second chances: the bankruptcy law offers business people protection from creditors and debt restructuring because we accept that businesses often fail due to factors outside their owner's control.
I don't think that's the reasoning behind limited liability...

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We have to question an assumption that has dominated economic thinking over the last three decades – namely, the belief that maximising market freedom is the best way to generate wealth.
It's mathematically proven - within specific parameters. The question should be whether we are close enough to the assumptions for the model to be valid.

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From this assumption came the argument that even committed egalitarians should let markets rip, because that would give them the maximum wealth to redistribute. In Britain, the natural "progressive" conclusion was the New Labour strategy that you regulate the City as little as possible because that will maximise the wealth it generates, which means more money for equality-enhancing programmes like Sure Start.
Application can go wrong but it's not a bad model...

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Sadly that assumption has been proved wrong. After three decades of deregulation and tax cuts for the rich, growth has slowed down, rather than accelerated, in almost all countries. The world economy, which was growing at about 3% in per capita terms in the "bad old days" of widespread regulation and punitive taxation for the rich in the 1960s and 70s, has grown at about half that rate in the last three decades. In Britain, average annual per capita income growth rate was 2.4% in the 60s and the 70s, when the country was allegedly suffering from the "British disease"; but it fell to 1.7% during 1990 to 2009, after it is supposed to have been cured of the disease thanks to Margaret Thatcher's heroic struggle in the 1980s.


Please! Ever heard of 'catch up' phases and the like? It's hard to take the OP seriously after such a paragraph...
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Originally Posted by Gilles de Rais View Post
I don't think that's really the reasoning behind the anglo-saxon model of capitalism.
It's the reasoning for its acceptance by the contemporary parliamentary Left.

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It's mathematically proven - within specific parameters. The question should be whether we are close enough to the assumptions for the model to be valid.
Lol.

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Please! Ever heard of 'catch up' phases and the like? It's hard to take the OP seriously after such a paragraph...
If there was any "catching up" going on, the growth rate would still be expected to increase. If that isn;t happening, thereb is no catching up, there is falling back.
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And my catch up phase comment was related to the 50s-70s. By definition, since the West is the most advanced society, we are not catching up, we are leading.

It's been observed that the leaders (UK then US) rarely progress above 1 or 2% per year over time - Technology just takes time to be developped and spread through the economy...
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Originally Posted by Gilles de Rais View Post
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You can build an infinite number of mathematically consistent scenarios which have nothing to do with reality.

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And my catch up phase comment was related to the 50s-70s. By definition, since the West is the most advanced society, we are not catching up, we are leading.
A matter of some debate I think.

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It's been observed that the leaders (UK then US) rarely progress above 1 or 2% per year over time - Technology just takes time to be developped and spread through the economy...
This is irrelevant. The comparison was not being made to other countries, it was being made to different periods in one country. The question remains: if liberalisation was supposed to enhance growth, why did growth fall back?
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Originally Posted by contracycle View Post
You can build an infinite number of mathematically consistent scenarios which have nothing to do with reality.
A valid objection. I am just saying that, within some specific parameters that are not entirely outlandish or inconceiveable, free markets work.

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A matter of some debate I think.
Not really. It might eventually be untrue but, right now and for the next few decades, the most technologically advanced societies with the greatest reach of technology within their societies and productive methods are the western ones. You may add Japan. That's the only exception.

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This is irrelevant. The comparison was not being made to other countries, it was being made to different periods in one country. The question remains: if liberalisation was supposed to enhance growth, why did growth fall back?
Because the reconstruction/catch-up period following WWII was over? That's why China is still growing 10% a year and not us. They're not really inventing new stuff. They're just "catching up" with us. We're still leading and thus growing above 1-2% a year is going to be tough... As it always was for the leaders...

As i said, that stuff is all pretty well-known. I agree with the OP conclusion/general direction - inequalities are bad and tend to make situations worst. The justifications for these inequalities never appealed to me and, imo, tend to be weak anyhow. But we've said that many times before and it just happens that the OP economics are totally off... If you want people to follow/be convinced and pretend to have solutions, that's a pretty big problem...
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Originally Posted by Gilles de Rais View Post
Because the reconstruction/catch-up period following WWII was over? That's why China is still growing 10% a year and not us. They're not really inventing new stuff. They're just "catching up" with us. We're still leading and thus growing above 1-2% a year is going to be tough... As it always was for the leaders...

But look, you've got this backwards; according to the OP, the growth rate was HIGHER shortly after WW2 than it was after deregulation and liberalisation. The OP is not complaining that growth in the 60's was too low, it is asserting that the alleged remedies to the alleged problems that faced Britain resulted in worse outcomes from the 80's onward.
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My point being that it was entirely normal that growth rates would fall once the reconstruction period was over.

Just as China's rate WILL fall off, (almost) no matter what, in the coming decade(s) as they complete their catch up phase and the low hanging fruits of moving to a capitalistic society from a agro-maoist one get exhausted.
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Originally Posted by Gilles de Rais View Post
My point being that it was entirely normal that growth rates would fall once the reconstruction period was over.

Just as China's rate WILL fall off, (almost) no matter what, in the coming decade(s) as they complete their catch up phase and the low hanging fruits of moving to a capitalistic society from a agro-maoist one get exhausted.
Yeah, Made in China will start getting replaced with Vietnam, India and other S-SE Asian countries I imagine...

The thought of a half billion people working at Chinese Walmart is scary and depressing.
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